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Avidemux => Windows => Topic started by: macduke on August 05, 2013, 01:53:26 PM

Title: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: macduke on August 05, 2013, 01:53:26 PM
Hi.
I have experienced some problems in win64 built version.
win32 builds are more stable than win64 were I found a lot of stuck or crash not present in win32.
Moreover I guess why 7z packed build of win32 is 22Mb while win64 is 16Mb only.... strange...
For these reasons I decided to use win64 build for 2.5.6-1 (it seems ok) but win32 build for 2.6.x (nightly updated).
Am I wrong?
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: mean on August 05, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
The latest nightlies of win64 should behave the same as win32
2.5.x is different. It works fine for non h264, strict CFR files, and will cause sync issue for anything else.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: macduke on August 06, 2013, 12:42:52 PM
Hi again.

Do you mean that 22Mb vs 16Mb size is due just to a different compiler?

About 2.5.x, could you please clarify what do you mean with "sync issues"?
I guess: only with h264 and/or the source is transport stream you could have sync issues?

Thanx.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: mean on August 06, 2013, 12:46:04 PM
compiler + some plugins might be missing in the win64 versions

2.5:
If you deal with mpegTS or some mkv/mp4 you might end up with audio/video sync issue
H264 : you will have problems

Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: mean on August 06, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
additionnaly the win32 verson is partially compiled in debug mode
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: thany on August 12, 2013, 06:55:53 PM
Yeah where is the win64 version anyway? On SF.net I could only find the x86 version... I honestly remember there being x64 versions.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: mean on August 12, 2013, 07:43:51 PM
http://www.avidemux.org/smf/index.php/topic,6885.0.html
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: thany on August 12, 2013, 08:17:30 PM
What are you trying to say?

"Warning : For serious stuff, please use 2.5" -> what? why? 2.6 is a mainstream release, is it not?
Get the source and compile it myself? Lemme see, no.
Go to http://avidemux.razorbyte.com.au/ ? Because that's down.

So again, where is the x64 version then?
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: mean on August 13, 2013, 04:01:07 AM
It(s the first link ...
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: thany on August 13, 2013, 07:32:39 AM
That's not "the x64 version" iyam. They are nightlies, and no installers. I would rather use a stable version (or one that's as stable as it gets at least).
Obviously x64 doesn't get the same attention as the x86 version... Even though x64 is equally important, at least.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: AQUAR on August 13, 2013, 01:04:57 PM
@ thany
Don't be so one sided in your responses.
If you peruse the other threads in this forum you will find some answers.
Like: There is an installer version if you look for it and razorbyte down was recently explained etc etc.
Appreciate that this is a free program that is under development by a few volunteers.



Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: thany on August 13, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
I do appreciate, but your replies felt like "here is a bit of information, go figure it it out or play somewhere else".
You should realize I'm asking a very normal question, and just pointing me to another thread and expecting me to magically understand is considered rude in many cultures.

Also, you can't expect me to keep up with everything. I assume you do, but I don't. And you also can't expect me to plow through goodness-knows-how-many threads in order to find what I'm looking for, which is something in this case, that should be obvious even without the forums.

Look, it's no rocket science to put the x64 installer in the downloads where the 32-bits installer is. It will certainly prevent questions like this.
You know, just put the isntaller here (http://avidemux.berlios.de/download.html). How hard can it be? It can't be more than 5 minutes work. I'd do it myself if I knew how, and if I finally understood where this magical x64 installer might be.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: zakk on August 13, 2013, 05:42:02 PM
Quote from: thany on August 13, 2013, 04:01:56 PMjust pointing me to another thread and expecting me to magically understand is considered rude in many cultures.
See what I mean this time, Aquar ?
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on August 13, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
@zakk: Yeah and why don't you deal with it.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: AQUAR on August 14, 2013, 02:36:19 AM
@zakk:
Nothing constructive!
How about you help this person instead.
@thany:
Sorry mate, I was just suggesting a bit of self help with the items you raised.
Hopefully someone has the time needed to better help you out.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: bernd_b on August 14, 2013, 10:20:24 AM
What is the point of a "stable" release?
If you deal, as told by mean already, with recent stuff meaning h264 and/or ts, mkv container, the latest releases of 2.6.x is the best you can get for my experience. So take a nightly build and try. As told, to current knowledge 64bit release should behave like the 32bit one.

If you run into trouble, you can post it and hope that a developer will find time to fix it. That's all a user can expect from a freeware and do to help it prosper. If the trouble is a drawback meaning the problem does not occur with an older version this older version will be available for download as long as needed - this is at least what I experienced here.

I really don't get the of point of how complaining about this situation should motivate anyone who is capable of it to change something. I am really thankful for avidemux-2.6 and for all the work which was put into it.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: AQUAR on August 14, 2013, 12:50:42 PM
Well said.

Unfortunately some people just cannot be satisfied because their perceptions are unreal and or impractical.
When trying to help these people its very easy to cross some invisible barrier of sensibilities.
Thus you end up being called rude and subject to other not so nice abuses, but that is alright for a little while.
Eventually as Jan Gruuthuse said "if it isn't fun anymore why bother".

My salute goes out to mean for all the effort and objective presence here at this forum.

Avidemux is a fine piece of free software that simply comes in two flavours.
Maybe one should be called Avcdemux instead of Avidemux.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: AQUAR on August 16, 2013, 12:58:27 PM
Having just looked at the "nightlies" there now is a new directory with installable versions of avidemux.
http://www.avidemux.org/nightly/win_installer/
Perhaps mean could also add a link to this directory under the 'Windows SVN build' sticky to make it easier to find the latest installer builds.
Title: Re: win 32bits vs 64bits builds
Post by: thany on August 18, 2013, 01:39:07 AM
I say putit on the homepage for those who find navigating crowded forums a chore, and for those who do not go into the forums at all. After all, if nightlies are the only way to go as far as win64 builds are concerned, they should be easy to find for everyone. It only helps to spread the goodness.