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Avidemux => Main version 2.6 => Topic started by: phaolo on June 01, 2013, 10:15:28 PM

Title: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on June 01, 2013, 10:15:28 PM
I see that version 2.6.4 is still very unstable..
It would be good to state it clearly in the main page and not only inside the forum.   :P

Anyway, these are the problems I've found so far (WinXP SP3):
1- deleting parts of a movie often causes a crash (without info or "set to 0 ms" error). "Reset edits" also caused a runtime error.
2- opening medium-big files is damn slow! Worst are AVI (it takes about 1-2sec multiplied x file minutes duration) and MKV are slow. "Cancel" button, then, doesn't work.
3- options for subtitles and chapters are not planned? Even when using "copy" method, they get messed up or deleted in the output.
4- I can't play big mkv files in avidemux 2.6.4 because they almost freeze my computer (not happening in 2.5.4 or Vlc), even when setting normal or low threading priority for playback. If I try it, I have to kill the process.
5- open or save dialogs don't remember the folders and reset to program directory. Please add an option to use file location\last folder\custom dir.
6- avidemux volume bar is always set to max at start; modifying that, unlike many other programs, changes global Windows Wave volume, which is quite bad when you need fixed settings for recordings.
7- I have an english OS with italian keyboard and date. Avidemux interface shows both languages!? lol

Does anyone have these problems too?
I hope that these can be fixed!
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Shotokan81 on June 02, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
Hi

Just for fun as I do not really mind for the time being: I have a mac bought in Japan, I turned OSX in English, but half of the error messages are in Japanese :)
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on June 02, 2013, 02:52:58 PM
Xp and having this issues: clean your temporaries with ccleaner (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner) or similar software.
Still issues: memory? stop all none essential programs.
Bottleneck to hard disk? OS clogged? Video card? .... Install 64-bits ubuntu 12.04  on 2nd hard disk  or removable hard disk. Runs smoothly on core i5-2500K, would run on core i3-2100. If videocard nvidia: enable vdpau otherwise opengl support, don't select opengl as video display.
If issues still there with ubuntu = hardware issue, if not windows XP issue.
Realtime demo (http://www.avidemux.org/smf/index.php/topic,12094.0.html) core i5, nvidia geForce GT 520
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: mean on June 02, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Do you have repeatable way to reproduce the crashes ?
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on June 03, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
Shotokan81
yes, it's a minor issue, but lol ^_^

Mean
I tried some tests to replicate the crashes. For now I got this:
A- open a movie, go to next keyframe, set end selection, delete, reset edit, delete current auto-selected part --> crash "Error set seekting to 0"   (seekting?)
B- when I try to jump to start\end of a movie (using interface button or keys), avidemux sets position to Xms\1s after\before the real start\end or even causes "Error seekting to X ms" (X is a number)

Do you have any comment for the other issues meanwhile?

Jan Gruuthuse
I use XP because I have an old 32bit single core computer. It can, however, run both 2.5.4 and Vlc normally.. are the requirements higher than before?
About the advices, I started to try them and.. a weird thing happened.
I enabled only vdpau because I have an Nvidia and.. yess, playback worked..but no audio. I tried to disable it again and..  playback still worked good!? (but no audio)
I didn't use ccleaner, restart, defragment or other things, and the system seems fine, so wtf I'm just puzzled.
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on June 03, 2013, 12:29:59 PM
Quote from: phaolo on June 03, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
Jan Gruuthuse
I use XP because I have an old 32bit single core computer. It can, however, run both 2.5.4 and Vlc normally.. are the requirements higher than before?
Yes, when working with newer codecs and larger resolutions like 720p or 1080i/p
QuoteI enabled only vdpau because I have an Nvidia and.. yess, playback worked..but no audio. I tried to disable it again and..  playback still worked good!? (but no audio)
vdpau: linux only

QuoteI didn't use ccleaner, restart, defragment or other things, and the system seems fine, so wtf I'm just puzzled.
My understanding: windows uses more resources. On older computer with lesser memory and ide hard disc interface, you sooner reach limits of what you still can do.
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: mean on June 03, 2013, 01:25:08 PM
Do you have a multicore cpu ?
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on June 03, 2013, 01:36:38 PM
no has not multicore cpu:
Quote from: phaolo on June 03, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
Jan Gruuthuse
I use XP because I have an old 32bit single core computer.

and if it is one of those old AMD not supporting some instructions.
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: mean on June 03, 2013, 01:59:48 PM
2.6 is heavily targetted for multicore cpu
It is probably much slower than 2.5 on single core
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on June 04, 2013, 02:34:10 PM
Quote2.6 is heavily targeted for multicore cpu
Oh, I see. Well, I can stand some bearable sluggishness, if the program works anyway.

Quoteand if it is one of those old AMD
You got it Jan, my poor computer is an 8+ years old AMD Athlon xp 2800+

QuoteYes, when working with newer codecs and larger resolutions like 720p or 1080i/p [..] My understanding: windows uses more resources. [..]
Well ok, but that isn't exactly an Avidemux 2.6.4 requirement and those movies were all <480p.
Anyway, I think that the temporary playback problem was caused by my external drive.

Could you, then, reproduce my errors too?
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: mean on June 04, 2013, 02:56:56 PM
That error is simple to reproduce
Load a video and hit CTRL+X

I fixed it this morning, looking into the others
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on June 04, 2013, 04:02:03 PM
I believe the issue is with cpu [ Bug #18542 ] new Avidemux versions crash immediately (AMD Athlon XP, 2083 MHz (12.5 x 167) 2800+)
I had a similar issue with laptop, the original posting is no longer on the forum: da stimmt etwas nicht mit bestimmten AMD-Prozessoren (http://www.avidemux.org/smf/index.php/topic,10041.msg56761.html#msg56761)
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on June 09, 2013, 10:47:54 AM
QuoteI believe the issue is with cpu [ Bug #18542 ] new Avidemux versions crash immediately
That happened in the first 2.6.0 versions, but seems to be fixed in 2.6.4.
I don't know if the temporary playback slowness (not happened again) or the missing audio (still there) are caused by that too.

Version 2.5.4 is still great, but it's not suitable for editing multi-track movies and it adds an unwanted title tag in mp4 files, so I'll probably wait for a better 2.6.5  :P
Thanks for the support  :)
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: pchristy on June 09, 2013, 04:01:51 PM
One thing I have found that makes quite a difference to stability (with 64-bit Linux, anyway) is the selection of the right audio device.

For a while I was plagued with an issue where I could join / split / transcode / do anything except PLAY the file! As soon as I did that, Avidemux would lock solid, and only a Ctl_Alt_Esc would rescue it. No error messages, nothing - just a solid lock! Then I discovered that selecting OSS instead of Alsa default for the sound output fixed it, but at the expense of some audio sync anomalies (OSS is an old Linux sound system that has been superceded, but compatibility files are there on most systems.)

Finally, after a bit of fiddling around, I discovered that selecting a specific Alsa device (in my case, AlsaHw0) instead of the default or dmix options provided a complete cure! Since I did that, no more crashes, no more dubious sync, and everything just seems to run a LOT smoother!

In short, have a look through your system preferences - you might find that using something other than the default options works better!

Pete
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on July 02, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
-pchristy
Oh, I've seen your post just now, sorry.
I've selected in preferences   downmixing->stereo  and  devices->win32  and the audio seems to work for now.

-mean\Jan
Maybe I've found another bug while shifting ac3 audio tracks in an .avi file.
If I do +1000 or -1000 the output file always seems -1000 !? Damn I went crazy on that  :o
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: ClemD on July 03, 2013, 09:07:32 AM
I got an other (quite big) problem :

function "copy" doesn't always work (to be exact, I only have one video to test, and the copy function works perfectly well in 2.5.6 version ; not in 2.6.4). Is it possible to change that ?

I got the message :

"Oops
This function is disabled or no longer valid"

Have you this problem phaolo ?
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on July 03, 2013, 10:27:56 AM
-ClemD
Yes, I've tested it now in 2.6.4 with 2 random videos: "copy\paste" caused your same errors, but "cut" still works.
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: ClemD on July 03, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
Quote from: phaolo on July 03, 2013, 10:27:56 AM
-ClemD
Yes, I've tested it now in 2.6.4 with 2 random videos: "copy\paste" caused your same errors, but "cut" still works.

Yes indeed it does.

However, for my purpose, copy may be very important in the future !  :(
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on July 04, 2013, 04:38:06 AM
Copy is frame editing = avidemux 2.5.6. 2.6 branch is not a frame editor.
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: mean on July 04, 2013, 05:19:53 AM
It needs to be updated to work, remind me in a couple of weeks if not done

Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on July 04, 2013, 11:03:06 AM
-ClemD
Yep, I didn't say that "cut only" was ok ;)

-Jan
Err.. I'm a noob for video specs, but isn't "copy data from frame xxx to yyy" same as "copy data from time mm1:ss1 to mm2:ss2"?

-mean
perfect, but do you.. mean you are going to release a 2.6.5 or we'll have to test beta builds?
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on July 04, 2013, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: phaolo on July 04, 2013, 11:03:06 AM
-Jan
Err.. I'm a noob for video specs, but isn't "copy info from frame xxx to yyy" same as "copy info from time mm1:ss1 to mm2:ss2"?
Should be but 2.6.4 is not working with frames, the frames are virtual.

But as developer states:
Quote from: mean on July 04, 2013, 05:19:53 AM
It needs to be updated to work, remind me in a couple of weeks if not done

Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Magnusmaster on July 05, 2013, 12:44:27 AM
When the audio device is set to AlsaDefault, whenever I play a video, when the video stops playing Avidemux crashes (when that happens the command line reads "[AudioDeviceThreaded] Exiting loop". It doesn't happen with AlsaHw0 or OSS, but then another program can't play sound. I don't have pulseaudio.
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on July 05, 2013, 05:46:25 AM
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as installed:
- Sound setting: analog output
- Avidemux: preferences
- Local playback downmixing: Stereo
- AudioDevice: AlsaDefault

System Sound:
(https://thumbs.rapidshare.com/thumbs/100/5E5/56A59FB5635FE958424234B96530D.jpg) (https://thumbs.rapidshare.com/thumbs/1024/5E5/56A59FB5635FE958424234B96530D.jpg)

following Synaptic Package Manager: Alsa & Pulse installed

Installed alsa:
(https://thumbs.rapidshare.com/thumbs/100/D17/24C510C791D3898271739291BED93.jpg) (https://thumbs.rapidshare.com/thumbs/1024/D17/24C510C791D3898271739291BED93.jpg)

Installed pulse:
(https://thumbs.rapidshare.com/thumbs/100/D9E/95C5973A0CA757DA935F595919CCE.jpg) (https://thumbs.rapidshare.com/thumbs/1024/D9E/95C5973A0CA757DA935F595919CCE.jpg)

you could need to install pavu form software center (PulseAudio Volume control)

click on thumbs to enlarge
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: pchristy on July 05, 2013, 08:42:17 AM
Magnusmaster: Sounds very like the issue I had! See reply #13 earlier in this thread.

My system is Slackware 14 (64-bit) and I don't use pulseaudio either. However, setting Avidemux to a specific alsa device hasn't affected any of my other programs.

Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on July 06, 2013, 12:47:20 PM
QuoteMaybe I've found another bug while shifting ac3 audio tracks in an .avi file.
If I do +1000 or -1000 the output file always seems -1000 !? Damn I went crazy on that  :o

Hey, has anyone verified this problem too?
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on July 23, 2013, 09:06:14 AM
Hello,
can you please tell me some news (if any) about the previous bugs?
Are those going to be fixed in a nightly build only?
Title: Re: Avidemux 2.6.4 problems
Post by: phaolo on August 09, 2013, 11:22:51 AM
Umm... bump?