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Avidemux => Windows => Topic started by: avw62 on April 24, 2014, 03:28:23 PM

Title: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: avw62 on April 24, 2014, 03:28:23 PM
Hi there,

Eh ...
When scrolling step by step I see
Frame Type: B-TFF
Frame Type:  P-TFF
and
Frame Type: I-TFF

when cutting and saving I always see the previous recording flashing by, really a split second.
1 frame?

In the example below, the recording I want, it starts at 09:56.440
I set the start marker [A] at 09:56.560  just to make sure.
After saving and playing back in VLC, at 00:00 there is shot of the previous recording (09:56.400). Again, just a split second.


How to avoid that?

Thanks

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Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: zakk on April 24, 2014, 04:20:04 PM
What is the video codec ?
Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: avw62 on April 24, 2014, 04:46:01 PM

MediaInfo says:
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Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 52mn 56s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 8 398 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 10 000 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV

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Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on April 24, 2014, 06:14:20 PM
With avidemux 2.6.x branch you can only cut nicely when cutting point is selected with the up/down cursor arrow. Selecting cutting point with left/right arrow cursor keys produces these effects as you describe. Tried to explain you this before.
Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: avw62 on April 25, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
Thanks Jan.

Very sorry to say, having to 'confess', I missed your last post (other thread).

You are right.. . :-[
I know, I know, you told me more than once to use the up/down arrow only.
Thing is, being a newbie, I did not exactly understand -why- . . .
I (wrongly) felt that using the < and > arrows I could 'position' more exact, as the 'steps' were smaller,
so I could position the exact start of the cutting. But that could very well be on a 'B'or 'P' frametype.

Noticed that with up/down arrow, indeed only I-TFF frametype is selected.

Thanks again for your patience and sorry for being so 'stubborn' on this.

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Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: AQUAR on April 25, 2014, 10:17:59 AM
Just for complete information:

If you are dealing with a video stream that is encoded to the MPEG-4 (ASP) standard (eg Xvid) then
I would use avidemux 2.5.6 for cut/edit/copy.

Avidemux 2.5.6 is a different program and has a function called smartcopy.
With that function you can cut/edit/copy on P frames and even on B frames.

Note: smartcopy does not work on MPEG-2 (video in questiion here).
Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: avw62 on April 25, 2014, 11:15:37 AM
Thanks!
Will definitely remember this.
I am using v.2.6.7.

Meanwhile, I have been trying to figure out what few steps I should take to handle een original DVD, i.e.
the .bup .ifo and .vob files in the VIDEO_TS folder of a DVD.

Found a tutoral "DVD/MPEG-2 to AVI" on Avidemux wiki
Seems I need to download mplayer first, so for my Core2 9550 I need MPlayer-core2-r36986+g9c99bc1.7z from SourceForge.

F:\Downloads\Mplayer
I have in \Downloads an entire video

F:\Downloads\Videoname (1980)
-------------------\Video_TS

I think I should use :
mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile rippeddvd.vob
where 1 should be the title of the video ???

should that then be including path ?
mplayer dvd://"F:\Downloads\Videoname (1980)"  -dumpstream -dumpfile rippeddvd.vob

likely not... but what should it be then?

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Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: AQUAR on April 25, 2014, 12:42:53 PM
If its a retail DVD then you first need to un-scramble the material inside the vob's.
Google that for info.

Then look at this guide:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/295782-How-to-get-started-with-avidemux-edit-and-convert-any-video-format
Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: avw62 on April 26, 2014, 12:47:18 PM
Ah! Thanks.

File open, select VTS_01_1.VOB.

Still need to figure out how to add subtitles. When I play the video (from hd), I can select the subtitle from the main menu.
In Avidemux I might click on Video->Filters->click subtitles
It says
SSA.
Hardcode ass/ssa subtitles using libass

I might click on 'plus'-button
but Avidemux asks for a file to be opened.

Maybe it isn't possible though.

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Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on April 26, 2014, 03:43:43 PM
Should be possible. You need either to download a matching subtitle (srt) and convert it with subtitle editor program to ssa. Or create .ssa subtitle file your self with a program like Aegisub (http://www.aegisub.org/) or similar. sample ssa file attached:
Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: AQUAR on April 27, 2014, 08:02:55 AM
VOB's have graphical subs, so you need to use a subtitle editor that has an OCR (Optical Character Recognition) engine.
There are a few eg 'subtitle edit' .

Then you can train the OCR to create text based subtitles (usually srt and ssa are available options).
Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: avw62 on April 27, 2014, 09:08:24 AM
@AQUAR @Jan Gruuthuse

Thank you both!

Truly appreciate all your help.
And .. patience... ;)

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Title: Re: B-TFF P-TFF I-TFF
Post by: AQUAR on April 28, 2014, 02:10:49 AM
If you just want to keep the DVD Video and its VOBSUB's (subtitle tracks) then MKV can store VOBSUB's as well.
Depending on your need to edit/recode etc that might be an easy option.