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Avidemux => Windows => Topic started by: naszdom on May 03, 2017, 02:41:57 PM

Title: Same Qz as input
Post by: naszdom on May 03, 2017, 02:41:57 PM
I came across
https://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=tutorial:guide_to_encoding_types
when I was looking for something else. 

It mentions Same Qz as input as being useful for modifying an existing encoded file.  Just right for hard subtitles I thought.  However I just cannot find it in the configuration of version 2.6.21.  Does it exist in the Windows version for MKV files?
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on May 03, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
You are confusing container formats (mp4, mkv) with MPEG-4 encoding (h263, h264, ...)

mkv can contain a MPEG-4 encoded video
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: naszdom on May 03, 2017, 06:33:44 PM
The attached is what I see. I am not too concerned about the container. It could easily be an MP4 container.

What I want to do is "extract the 1-pass analysis information already stored in the video frames and reuse it, effectively avoiding a whole pass and saving time." as in the tutorial.  But I do not see how to set it for "Same Qz as input"
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: eumagga0x2a on May 03, 2017, 07:04:47 PM
In most cases, especially with hw accel enabled, Avidemux doesn't get the quantizing info from video. I don't think that this approach is viable.
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: naszdom on May 03, 2017, 07:37:23 PM
So does that mean that the avidemux admwiki needs correcting? (see link in first post)
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: eumagga0x2a on May 03, 2017, 07:54:50 PM
I can only guess that the article targeted xvid/divx as codec and was written with Avidemux 2.5.x in mind. Since then a lot of water has flowed under the bridge.

I'm not into the Avidemux wiki.
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: naszdom on May 03, 2017, 08:22:48 PM
Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: Jan Gruuthuse on May 04, 2017, 05:08:20 AM
Time permitting the main developer does update the Wiki for big changes.

As you're using x264, this would be the place to look: guide_to_encoding_types ââ,¬Â¢ doctop ââ,¬Â¢ h.264 (https://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=tutorial:h.264)
Qz is not mentioned there.
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: naszdom on May 04, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Thanks - that will keep me going for a while.
Title: Re: Same Qz as input
Post by: mean on May 05, 2017, 04:24:54 PM
yes, it dates xvid/divx era
With more recent codecs we dont get that info at all