Avidemux2.7.9-dev version (old thread)

[eumagga0x2a]

Dealing with Qt5 on my computer to be able to compile Avidemux took me a half a day and for most users is their own compilation just "mission impossible".

Could you please explain? On my Fedora Workstation it is just the question of installing two packages (qt5-qtbase-devel and qt5-linguist) which pull in all necessary Qt5 dependencies and you are set, ready to build and run Avidemux. Same on Debian Buster and on Ubuntu.

[signy13]

Dealing with Qt5 on my computer to be able to compile Avidemux took me a half a day and for most users is their own compilation just "mission impossible".

Could you please explain? On my Fedora Workstation it is just the question of installing two packages (qt5-qtbase-devel and qt5-linguist) which pull in all necessary Qt5 dependencies and you are set, ready to build and run Avidemux. Same on Debian Buster and on Ubuntu.

Well it is quite off topic, I am sorry I mentioned that. I have had to update Qt5 for another software some time ago but this version had some missing files while compiling Avidemux (I found that other people have the same problem too). I downgraded Qt5 and it started working again.
The point is that compiling software is for most of users too difficult task and it would be nice if all users had an option to change the LCD font to some other monospaced font without compilation.

[Who]

The point is that compiling software is for most of users too difficult task and it would be nice if all users had an option to change the LCD font to some other monospaced font without compilation.

Agree 100%.  Don't you hate developers and programmers who seem to think that all their users must also be programmers, even though in real life there are probably 99% "just plain users" and 1% programmers, if that?

Any developer that thinks that all their users are able to (re)compile software needs a serious reality check.  That is true for any platform, but especially for Windows and MacOS users.

[butterw]

210326 nightly is available

- Peek Original button has been added in the configure UI of some filters (in some cases it replaces side-by-side view).

! There should be a spinbox displaying the values of the parameters in the configure UI after the slider, it is missing in some of the new filters.

Some links to available documentation for new filters would probably be helpful (add to release notes ?).

[szlldm]

There should be a spinbox displaying the values of the parameters in the configure UI after the slider, it is missing in some of the new filters.

They were left out deliberately, because most of the time their actual values have no meaning, rather the user change them through visual feedback.

[szlldm]

2.7.9 developement, 210326 nightly is available

New filters:
-Posterize
-Blur
-Chroma hold
-Mirror
-Chroma key
-Cartoon
-Dynamic threshold
-Analyzer
-Fit to size
-Grid
-Color balance
-Wavelet Sharpening
-Wavelet Denoising
-DelogoHQ
-Luma stabilizer


New features:
-Resample FPS now has a blending frames option
-Most of filters with preview now have a "Peek Original" button, to quickly compare input and filtered frames
-Shortcuts for filter manager operation (move up/down, make partial)

+Bugfixes

Feedbacks are welcome!

[butterw]

There should be a spinbox displaying the values of the parameters in the configure UI after the slider, it is missing in some of the new filters.

They were left out deliberately, because most of the time their actual values have no meaning, rather the user change them through visual feedback.

The issue is that parameter values are not displayed with only the sliders.
Spinboxes also allow to set a value.

Visual feedback is not the only valid approach here.

 

[Who]

There should be a spinbox displaying the values of the parameters in the configure UI after the slider, it is missing in some of the new filters.

They were left out deliberately, because most of the time their actual values have no meaning, rather the user change them through visual feedback.

First of all, wherever did you get that crazy idea?  I ALWAYS want to be able to tweak the values using the numbers.  I may use visual feedback for gross settings but then I switch to the values for tweaking, OR for reusing a value that has worked before in a similar circumstance.  In fact I hate sliders that don't let you tweak up or down in increments of 1 to get to (or back to) a precise setting.  If it were up to me I'd put spinboxes (if that is the correct term, I am talking about the textboxes with numbers that can be adjusted up or down in increments of 1) on everything and omit sliders completely (except on something like moving forwards or backwards in the video; sliders are definitely useful there).

But anyway there apparently is no MacOS version of the new nightly (latest version for Catalina is March 6) so once again I am left out.

[szlldm]

The sliders can be adjusted in increment of 1, and the numeric value are shown during the adjusment.
But if you realy need some spinboxes, let us know which new filters would you like to have those.

[Who]

The sliders can be adjusted in increment of 1, and the numeric value are shown during the adjusment.
But if you realy need some spinboxes, let us know which new filters would you like to have those.

Well in order to do that I will need to be able to try the filters to see which one I might actually use, but I can't do that until there is a nightly for MacOS Catalina that includes those filters.  But once there is, I will let you know.  I will say that if DelogoHQ is anything like the current Delogo filter I'll definitely want them there, if they are not there already, and if Blur lets you blur a selected portion of the each frame (rather than just the entire frame) I would want them there as well. Selecting via "rubber bands" or sliders is okay for getting close, but for precision you really need to be able to move in increments of 1 pixel.  But as I said I have not been able to actually see how these filters work yet because there is no MacOS nightly build yet, so maybe those are already covered?

By the way, just as an aside I will just say that at some point in the future you might want to consider making a series of "how to" videos that explain how the various filters work and what the adjustments do, especially for the more complex filters.  Avidemux is the type of program where some things are very intuitive but others, not so much, even down to things like why you might prefer one filter over another for a specific task.  Short explainer videos might be helpful, they don't need to be more than just a few minutes long and don't need to dwell on anything that is already fairly obvious, maybe just enough to cover one filter, or two or three similar filters.

[szlldm]

I will say that if DelogoHQ is anything like the current Delogo filter I'll definitely want them there,

These two are very different in handling. The new DelogoHQ is a little bit trickier, therefore there is a Help button with instructions on how to use it. IMHO it worth the extra work to configure the filter.
Compare Delogo2 (left) to DelogoHQ (right)

[Who]

I will say that if DelogoHQ is anything like the current Delogo filter I'll definitely want them there,

These two are very different in handling. The new DelogoHQ is a little bit trickier, therefore there is a Help button with instructions on how to use it. IMHO it worth the extra work to configure the filter.
Compare Delogo2 (left) to DelogoHQ (right)

Wow, that is exactly what I have been hoping for.  Any chance you can build a MacOS Catalina nightly soon?

[szlldm]

Any chance you can build a MacOS Catalina nightly soon?

I'm just a user/contributor, i have no influence on that.

[Who]

Any chance you can build a MacOS Catalina nightly soon?

I'm just a user/contributor, i have no influence on that.

Okay, thanks anyway.   eumagga0x2a is this something you could do?

[signy13]

There should be a spinbox displaying the values of the parameters in the configure UI after the slider, it is missing in some of the new filters.

They were left out deliberately, because most of the time their actual values have no meaning, rather the user change them through visual feedback.

First of all, wherever did you get that crazy idea?  I ALWAYS want to be able to tweak the values using the numbers.  I may use visual feedback for gross settings but then I switch to the values for tweaking, OR for reusing a value that has worked before in a similar circumstance.

There is another case when field for tweaking numbers is very useful - automation. For example I wrote a scripts which manipulates with a value in an opened Mplayer Delogo filter. This is quite easy when the script can just change numbers in a particular field. The same task is probably much more complicated (if not impossible) when sliders are the only way how to change values.
And for me personally is also very convenient to be able to set values by editing numbers (instead of interacting with a mouse) - a lot of people are used to use a keyboard much often then the mouse and they can be faster and more precise in comparison with using the mouse.

BTW it would be very convenient if there was alternative way how to set a mask for DelogoHQ filter in the same way as in Mplayer Delogo filter (when simple rectangle is sufficient). Being forced to create a picture with an appropriate mask makes creation of multiple delogo filters very tedious...